Three bullet points to market XPages: What would your three be?

22 thoughts on “Three bullet points to market XPages: What would your three be?”

1. If it would be used across different IBM platforms (Notes, Connections, Websphere) I guess you would have a strong selling point…

   1. So Patrick what are your 3 bullet points?

      1. What I see among our developers:
         * new creativity: seeing new opportunities
         * short learning curve
         * rapid application development = short development time compared with other dev platforms

2. 1) NoSQL
   2) RAD
   3) Modern Web Funtionality

3. * xpages are great
   * unless your org has learned to hate notes
   * if so, start learning the alternatives

   1. XPages are perfect for an org who has learned to hate Notes: show them how the current version of the Domino server empowers them, and take the Notes client out of the equation entirely. Give them apps that don’t suck, that don’t look ugly, that were written by people willing to become programmers who follow sound programming practices… and you’ll find their opinion of the platform changes quite rapidly.

      1. “that were written by people willing to become programmers who follow sound programming practices”

         +100. Creating apps with Notes is almost too easy….it’s altogether possible for an admin/”computer person” to hack something together (which is a good thing) – but you need an actual programmer/developer to come up with something that follows sound programming practices.

         I wonder how many of the “Notes Sucks” crowd are running home-brewed hacked-together apps that look (and smell) terrible because the company didn’t hire/contract out a decent developer….

4. Speed
   Stability
   Scalability.

   —* Bill

5. * Get data from any data store (JSON, SQL, Domino, CouchDb, etc)
   * No more bad programming practice hacks to produce modern domino websites
   * Truly separate data, ui and business logic
   * Easy to develop modern web apps rapidly whether you’re a beginning or experienced developer
   * Extensibility API makes it easy to produce your own components with their own functionality

   OK, so that’s 5 bullet points.

   1. Keith thanks for the input. Remember not to focus on what people may know about Notes/Domino already. Pretend that you are talking to developers say at a non IBM dev conference.

6. 1. XPages is the Power of Notes/Domino Application Development, but independent of any Mail and Calendaring System.
   2. XPages Allows different skill sets to work alongside Domino Developers with very little training. They are easily able to understand the Component tree, as something very similar is used in C# Development. (My C# Developer is becoming more and more involved in my Domino Projects because of his knowledge in JQuery, C# Web Design, etc)
   3. XPages is just as competitive as most technologies out there when it comes to responsive good looking User Interfaces, and in certain areas more is advanced. (Because we have a Microsoft and Domino Department, our developers are always challenging each other to produce fast, stable code, as well as responsive rich UI environments).

7. * Drag and Drop Designing
   * Flexibilty (with coding languages, data sources, etc.)
   * Modern

8. * fast
   * modern
   * efficient

9. * Build full stack web applications entirely in JavaScript (front-end and server).
   * Flexible and schemaless datastore allows for rapid code iteration and deployment.
   * Highly robust and granular data security.

   Despite all that, I think it is a very tough sell outside of incumbent Domino shops due to the extremely poor tooling, cost and lack of developer uptake.

   1. Jeff – I like your 3 bullet points. Thanks for stopping by.

10. Designer:
    1 rapid development
    2 fully seperate content from view/form design
    3 relational programming

    Admin / IT / Company
    1 No replication with clients any more needed (work with browser on rapid domino http task with notes id, no replication conflicts, no missed replications, no getting back deletion stubs, easy rollout of new apps…. )
    2 Better / easy integration in portals
    3 Use without local notes clients is possible

11. On Jeff’s point, if IBM got xPages working on Websphere, that would open up a whole new ball game.

    Lets see what they announce at #ls12.

    —* Bill

12. 1. Rapidly convert Notes/Domino apps to modern web 2.0 apps using familiar tools (@functions, DOM) in familiar Domino Designer environment.

    2. Rapidly develop Mobile Web applications to provide access to Notes/Domino data on mobile devices.

    3. XPages offer logical and attainable path to upgrade existing Notes/Domino development skills to develop modern Web 2.0 and mobile applications.

13. In getting XPages and the XWork Server into non-Domino organizations:

    1. Complete Application Development and Deployment Platform:
    > Integrated Directory Management – synchronizable with Active Directory etc.
    > Integrated Security on a Server/File/Application/Record level
    > Integrated Clustering
    > Integrated Replication
    > Integrated Web Server

    2. Web 2.0 Rapid Application Development for J2EE by leveraging:
    > JavaScript
    > CSS/XHTML
    > DOJO toolkit
    > Java and EL (Expression Language)

    3. Leverages a market proven, enterprise-grade NoSQL Datastore with built in Replication via an easy to use Graphical User Interface.

14. 1) Domino Web apps platform with rich web 2.0
    2) Leverage Notes and Domino environment or Have new opportunities with XWork server
    3) Build Once and access from any type of client (Thick, Thin and Palm)

15. 1- ajax page patching without coding.
    2- standard JSF controls unmatched in the industry, with Dojo to refine them, ready-to-RAD.
    3- Interconnectivity with the world through Web Services & Clients, mobile, JDBC, and the widest-distributed NoSQL database in the world.

16. – rapid development of modern web 2.0 apps
    – rapid development of mobile web apps
    – multiple data sources

    – Paul

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